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Damn John, let's move on already
8/29/2006 6:34 AM

What's next? A trip to France to give a Bush trashing speech?

Diebold redux

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Re: Damn John, let's move on already
8/29/2006 7:24 AM

Poor Democrats were prevented from voting more than two or three times each. What kind of fair election is that?

 

"Election improprieties"?...... You mean like the son of a Democrat politician who was recently convicted of slashing the tires of Republican vans that were supposed to help the elderly to the polls in 2004? Those kind of improprieties?

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Re: Damn John, let's move on already
8/29/2006 7:28 AM

tex, see your recent post about the 4th amendment. That leftie was just doing what he thought was best for the country. You know, saving and respecting the Constitution so we the dumbasses will not ruin it.

What are a few tires or inconvenience to some elderly folk in the bigger picture of things?

There's right to be done and the left are the only guys that can do it.

 

 

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Re: Damn John, let's move on already
8/29/2006 7:36 AM

Is this the same John Kerry who served in Viet Nam?

I think the accusations are crap. There are worse things than not having a vote counted, and he is one of them. Only land owners and people who pay more taxes than they get back should vote......then we wouldn't have all the nonsense.

After 6 years of whining the only votes that anyone can prove weren't counted were those of the military in 2000. US Flag [:flag]

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Re: Damn John, let's move on already
8/29/2006 8:01 AM

"He used the power of his state office to try to intimidate Ohioans and suppress the Democratic vote," said Kerry's e-mail.

Kerry, D-Mass., conceded the election when he lost Ohio and its 20 electoral votes. A recount requested by minor-party candidates showed Bush won by about 118,000 votes out of 5.5 million cast. But Kerry's e-mail says Blackwell "used his office to abuse our democracy and threaten basic voting rights."

Multiple lawsuits by outside groups were unsuccessful in challenging Ohio's 2004 election. One case filed by the League of Women Voters is still in U.S. District Court in Toledo. It claims Ohio's election system discriminates against minority voters.Laughing [:laugh]Laughing [:laugh]Laughing [:laugh]

 

Democrats are entertaining when they lose, be very afraid when they win. And I'm worried for my country and my family that this falls elections aided by the MSM will sweep them into power. With democratic power comes tax hikes, gun bans and an ignore terrorism it's not our problem style thinking. Why has the blame America first crowd taken over my party???

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Re: Damn John, let's move on already
8/29/2006 8:23 AM

ritepath:
Democrats are entertaining when they lose, be very afraid when they win. And I'm worried for my country and my family that this falls elections aided by the MSM will sweep them into power. With democratic power comes tax hikes, gun bans and an ignore terrorism it's not our problem style thinking. Why has the blame America first crowd taken over my party???

Come home from your roamings to and fro in the wilderness rp.

We JSA fundies will welcome you back.

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Re: Damn John, let's move on already
8/29/2006 8:29 AM
I tried I really did try and be a pinko dem, but it's not working so well. I'm gonna leave this place for a week and only visit DU then maybe I will have been tempered into the brotherhood of the anti-cross.
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Re: Damn John, let's move on already
8/29/2006 12:09 PM
Don't forget, Kerry won the election. Bush-Cheney cheated in Ohio, stealing 20 electoral college votes and with them the national election.

If Kerry-Edwards had run a bad campaign 1) they would not have won as they did and 2) neither would be in serious contention for the nomination in 08. Both are.
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Re: Damn John, let's move on already
8/29/2006 12:10 PM
Seems to me that the RNC spent four years PREPARING to crush the Dem winner of the election through vote suppression and machine fraud. How did the DNC counter those efforts over that four year period?

It looked to me like Kerry ran his campaign SUPERIOR to Bush crafting better policy positions, submitted better plans, and gave better speeches and rallies, and then won the debates decisively.

How did the DNC do?

How did the left media do?
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Re: Damn John, let's move on already
8/29/2006 12:23 PM

Why has no one condemened the double standard here?  If the Senator was a Republican and the Secretary of state were a black democrat the race card would have already been played.  where are all the legions of anti-racist people ?  Why are they not crying out that the Dem's are just trying to hold the black man down?  Why is Kerry getting away with attacking a black man merely because he is black?  In reality that is exactly what they do by enslaving blacks to our entitlement system.

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Re: Damn John, let's move on already
8/29/2006 12:30 PM

I'm not convinced that the Republican candidate can totally count on the overwhelming vote that it got last year from  main stream conservatives as well as the religious right.

Especially the religious right. Bush made an awful lot of promises to them, but hasn't really delivered.

 

 

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Re: Damn John, let's move on already
8/29/2006 12:46 PM
carey von hasselhoff:

I'm not convinced that the Republican candidate can totally count on the overwhelming vote that it got last year from  main stream conservatives as well as the religious right.

Especially the religious right. Bush made an awful lot of promises to them, but hasn't really delivered.

 

 

Agreed, if the Republicans lose it will not be because the Democrats beat them with their ideas it will be because they failed to deliver to their base constituancies.  We have had almost twenty years of increasing Republican dominance and what have they really accomplished for their core?  Is the deficit gone? Is abortion illegal?  Is there more or less religous freedom in this country?  Is there school choice? Have they stopped illegal immigration?  These are the issues that will sink them come election time not the war in Iraq and not the wider war on terrorism.

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Re: Damn John, let's move on already
8/29/2006 1:10 PM
bimmerbob:
carey von hasselhoff:

I'm not convinced that the Republican candidate can totally count on the overwhelming vote that it got last year from  main stream conservatives as well as the religious right.

Especially the religious right. Bush made an awful lot of promises to them, but hasn't really delivered.

Agreed, if the Republicans lose it will not be because the Democrats beat them with their ideas it will be because they failed to deliver to their base constituancies.  We have had almost twenty years of increasing Republican dominance and what have they really accomplished for their core?  Is the deficit gone? Is abortion illegal?  Is there more or less religous freedom in this country?  Is there school choice? Have they stopped illegal immigration?  These are the issues that will sink them come election time not the war in Iraq and not the wider war on terrorism.

bimmer, you need to be a bit more realistic with some of your expectations. Say what you will about curbing spending and illegal immigration. You won't get much of an argument out of me, other than that the votes are not there in the Senate and that's where many of these issues have died. There just aren't enough conservatives that can be elected in blue states where more often than not Republicans are that in name only. Abortion will not be banned. The agenda now ought to be to educate the next generation so abortion won't be necessary. We didn't get here overnight and we're not going to reverse the tide overnight, either.

Bush is a politician and political reality says there are not 60 votes in the Senate to invoke cloture. It sucks, but that's reality.

Arlen Specter is a good example. It's damning to watch his treatment of Bush in light of the fact he probably owes his seat to the President. The Senate was 51-49 going into the '04 elections and politically speaking, Specter had the better chance of retaining the seat than a conservative freshman. Again, that sucks but the Senate was in play. Look at what we got for that: Alito and Roberts, two very good conservative judges that will shape the Supreme Court for years to come.

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Re: Damn John, let's move on already
8/29/2006 2:00 PM
jlb:
bimmerbob:
carey von hasselhoff:

I'm not convinced that the Republican candidate can totally count on the overwhelming vote that it got last year from  main stream conservatives as well as the religious right.

Especially the religious right. Bush made an awful lot of promises to them, but hasn't really delivered.

Agreed, if the Republicans lose it will not be because the Democrats beat them with their ideas it will be because they failed to deliver to t